Every couple months I check the USF Project Management site just to see if there any updates for capital projects being pursued on campus. Looks like a Master Plan update was published back in December as a city-required 24 month update of the IMP in 2014. There's a lot of good information and updates about the the state/future of the campus. Eat your hearts out, but keep in mind this document is 4 months old so who know's the validity of the short term timelines:
- Southwest entrance to WMG construction due to start "late spring 2017" (hmmm) - Basketball practice facility is classified as "projects beyond 24 months" - Lone Mountain east residence hall is on file with the city and is due to break ground "August 2017" - New facilities for ROTC and Art+Architecture are on the radar (these are personal for me, sorry)
I apologize if any of this information is superfluous but it gets my mind running about the potential of USF.
I love that we get new training facilities but really not a fan of that club level...
I agree. I don't want to come across as Debbie Downer but I've never been impressed with any of it. Although I salute the attempt wholeheartedly. As has been stated, drink holders, elevator, renaming sections.…meh. With more critical needs and current amenities remaining antiquated - like a garage-sized ceiling and surrounding walls, rectangular seating sight-lines, a scoreboard that rivals St. Gabriel’s; adding a club level seems peculiar to me. It also takes people, the very few that attend, away from their seats. It appears with this lounge area, a museum (ugh, is that really a thing?), WMG will be one of the smallest venues in D1 while not accomplishing anything in modernizing the actual gym for, umm, basketball and spectators.
If you see the facilities added these days by schools like St. Joe's, Tulane and Drake and many others, USF's very very late attempt at patching up a relic with cosmetic band-aids seems a half-century late and sorely inadequate for DI basketball in the 21st century.
I understand the program has no donors, money, fan base, or young alums. It's been predicted by many of us for over a decade. The school dropped the ball, and popped it, ignoring athletics for 30+ years, and are now so behind the Jones’ that Secretariat would quit mid-race.
Again, I applaud the effort for something that should've been contemplated in the 1980s. USF administrators are finally cognizant!!?? With practically an empty ink well is it too late? "Good effort" is usually said out of sympathy. Hope to be proven wrong, yet again and again and again.
Current examples of the aforementioned basketball similar-sized (originally) gyms:
Post by seniorstumble on Apr 28, 2017 17:09:06 GMT -8
I actually think the club level is a great addition. Fits the SF feel and will bring in more people to games - even if not students or alums. I think the admin gets the lack of student/alum participation won't be fixed by a larger venue but they can make it a fun spot to catch a game.
The real problem for me (besides the little stuff like the outdated scoreboard) is the exterior design. Looks more like a big box store design than a basketball arena. Wish we had something more in line with the style of Lone Mountain. Missed opportunity to make a statement.
Post by chuckster4321 on Apr 28, 2017 22:42:00 GMT -8
sorry, but building projects at a time of escalating tuition is a terrible idea. the uc professors did a study indicating that student loans are the collateral for all of the bonds used to finance construction.
they pledged you tuition-the council of uc faculty association cucfa.org/news/tuition-bonds.php
the upshot is that the only guaranteed cash flow that exists for the decades long length of the bonds are student loans, primarily because the feds are the leg breakers that enforce payment. though this monograph was published by a public uni faculty, the bond collateral mechanism functions for any university. what is going to happen, as is taking place at oregon, professors will be fired in order to make sure the debt will be serviced. if any of you think that if any uni borrows tens of millions and still is in charge of its future, rather than the wall street money palaces which underwrite/invest in those bonds, then you better re-asses your thinking.....
The Jesuits and the Administrators did not really drag their feet on innovation and updating the campus. The donor based had deteriorated during the administration of two presidents. Someone determined that all Jesuit universities and colleges were to be run by Ph.Ds. The assumption that a Ph.D. somehow endowed a person with impeccable credentials for running a university may have been valid in some instances but in our situation, it proved NOT to be. (At the inauguration of one president, I remember a classmate declaring, "There goes the University." I questioned his comment and he elaborated. He was right on target.)
Father LoSchiavo who did not have a Ph.D. (he had a masters degree) possessed the background needed for USF. He was local so therefore, he had ties with the city. He had been a star basketball player at St. Ignatius. He represented one of the ethnic groups that had dominated USF for years. And finally, he had two assets that were essential - a brilliant mind to grasp all the intricacies historically, politically, ethically and an engaging personality. He rescued the University and we can indeed be grateful that someone had the wisdom to recognize his skill.
The building that was dedicated to Father Lo can never fully acknowledge his immense contribution. He was devoted to athletics but he also had to tackle the reality and that took precedence. Education and the University that provided that education were priorities.
Also, Chuckster, I know what you meant but your misspelled word made me laugh --- "re-asses your thinking"
I know many people are not enamored with the gym but for some reason, I have always liked it and I really like the changes as well. I am there to enjoy the game and I could care less about my surroundings.
I like the diversity of thought that we have on this board. Ideas are born from diversity and adversity.
I agree with usfalumna's comments. In my time of association with USF the two Father President's who set The University standards for growth, facilities, endowment and student bodies were Fr. Dullea and Fr. LoSchiavo. Both of these fine old Jesuits were very much local guys with engaging personalities.
I did not hear the telecast of the NIT game with LSU a couple of years ago but I understand Bill Walton mentioned WMG as being a landmark of West Coast basketball. I agree with the club level concept although I prefer to stay in my Row A seats.
I have heard the Museum/suite is not etched in stone and there has been a lot of push back. The practice facility is more likely to happen, but now it looks like it may be shared by other programs/students in general.
The practice facility has to be dedicated to BASKETBALL ONLY. Let the volleyball team (that is getting worse every year) practice in WMG or Hagan.
The dorm is more of a priority, as housing in the City is terrible for students.
The purchase and conversion of the blood bank on Turk and Masonic was supposed to happen, but I have not seen any progress there.